Yep, a discussion. Something I never do here on my blog. I prefer to tack up my crazy, open heart and peace out before I read any responses that sting just a little bit too much.
But I have a question for you, because I'm having trouble getting to the bottom of this thought.
To explain.
I was reading articles on Retronaut (one of my favorite websites) and found one of Sexual Album Covers from the 1950's. I found the album titles hilarious, and slid my laptop around to show my husband.
I didn't think twice about him seeing a page full of photos like the one above. The sick pang that runs through my gut when I see women in their lingerie in the sidebar of GQ wasn't there. The hurt, the anger, the betrayal, the loneliness that we women feel when slinky, perfect, 24" waist 36" breasted women throw themselves in our men's faces...I didn't feel it.
And so I've been thinking about this.
Why did I not feel instantly thrust back into the "never sexy enough" category?
Why did I not feel like I had to compete with these semi or completely nude women, the way I feel when I see this week's celebrity's leaked nude photos?
Why could I feel like I could flip through a 1947 Playboy with my husband?
What is it that makes one woman beautiful and one woman a slutty threat?
Last week while running errands with my husband, we talked about how this generation has taken everything beautiful and tried to sexualize it. He told me how a woman with her hair up in a sundress will turn every man's head, simply because we are women, and we are beautiful. Beauty is meant to be admired. I know what he's talking about, too - because I've looked at women and admired their beauty. But for both me and my husband, just because a woman is beautiful, doesn't mean we want to sleep with them. But we struggle to believe this now, as women, because feminine beauty barely exists anymore without the thick presence of sexual competition.
And in competition, one person wins, and everyone else loses.
The everyone else? It's our husbands. Our boyfriends. Me. You. Our daughters. Our sisters and brothers and mothers and fathers. Every woman who is real. Even the woman on the billboard who looks at her photoshopped image and skips her dinner to work out, using her own fake image to motivate her further towards an unattainable, loveless, beauty-less sexuality.
Maybe when I look at curvaceous women in these 50's advertisements, I see women who are sexy because they are beautiful. Beautiful because they are women with a womanly form.
Maybe I don't get that sinking, broken feeling because when I look at those women I know that I am one. Instead of seeing a woman I can never be, I see myself as a woman who is part of the female race everywhere, inherently possessive of beauty and sexuality.
Maybe the fact that our men look at other women isn't what's really destroying us the most. Maybe it's that our men are learning to compare us to a woman that doesn't exist.
And maybe, deep down in our souls, we've known all along that other women aren't our competition - but we sit helpless, having no one else to hate and blame for our loss, as we watch our beauty be stripped from us because we are unable to play by the new rules.
But I don't know, still, really. What are your thoughts?
Oh and PS. If you want to leave a comment and tell me to stop being threatened by other women, or that my husband was lying to me and really does want to sleep with every beautiful woman, and that I'm just an insecure woman blogging about my problems, you can please leave and never come back to my blog again. Thank you for understanding, and for not being ridiculous.
But I don't know, still, really. What are your thoughts?
Oh and PS. If you want to leave a comment and tell me to stop being threatened by other women, or that my husband was lying to me and really does want to sleep with every beautiful woman, and that I'm just an insecure woman blogging about my problems, you can please leave and never come back to my blog again. Thank you for understanding, and for not being ridiculous.
49 comments:
You hit the nail on the head. I felt the same way when I saw this album picture. I didn't get depressed on impact. In fact, it made me feel like "hey-these are real women." And good God, I needed this. I need to be reminded of this way too often.
Just wanted to add this to the discussion:
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Re: the disclaimer...you seriously get people like that?? Oh my word...reason 1051 why I barely blog. Ugh.
I think this picture is beautiful because it represents "real" women. Not fluffed up, weirdly posed, provocative looks, and barely there bodies airbrushed to "seeming" perfection.
I don't see anything wrong with this or the conversation that resulted. And I love what you said about the issue not being men looking at other woman, but being taught (through media, porn, etc) a false ideal of what a woman should be, which of course none of us can ever meet.
My husband once told me that I am and always be the most beautiful woman in the world to him, because I am HIS. Because God gave me to him, and him to me. That he truly doesn't see the wrinkles and sags and flab I see when I look in the mirror. He sees his bride. I try to live in that truth, his eyes for me, every single day. Unblemished, pure, and oh so valuable and worthy.
It's a sad truth that ladies nowadays put so much emphasis on physical beauty. We have such high standards that only turn out to be misplaced.
I hear so many of my girl friends saying how fat or ugly they are when they're actually some of the most gorgeous people I know. True, there are days where we just feel fat or ugly (I blame the monthly visitor!), but we need to be careful not to let it control us.
"Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised."
Proverbs 31:30
I struggled with this in high school, but then I realized that I was so focused on making myself feel good when the ONLY thing that I needed to be doing was glorifying God, pleasing God. In focusing so much on how I looked, trying to impress people, making myself feel good about myself, I was being self-centered more than I was Christ-centered.
But, by God's grace, He allowed me to see what truly matters in life: having that relationship with God.
May God be glorified!
I lololove your blog! <3 God bless you!
Interesting read! You have some really good thoughts, and some interesting ideas in this discussion. I don't know that I would want my man looking at even those "healthy" kinds of images--but I can relate in that I'd rather look at images like the "retro" ones or ones of nude women in an art museum because there isn't a gross, perverted, comparative, sexuality about those kinds of images. The "other" kind of nudity is about feminine beauty, which I generally appreciate probably more than even my guy!
From a man's perspective - well done.
Well said. And bravo! Truth, love & security are some of the things that breed intimacy and THAT is what we ALL really desire (with God; with our spouse.)
This could be the genesis of a much needed book.
(Teens, couples?)
kc
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I am so glad you posted this. I agree that the ideal woman today doesn't exist. Every single image we see in the media today has been photoshopped to perfection. I am guilty of having those insecure moments, even though my husband tells me I'm perfect and he loves my body just the way it is. I've gotten a lot better and become a lot more comfortable in my skin. However, I still need to be reminded that I'm a beautiful woman regardless of what the media says. Thank you for posting this. <3
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Yep, we've over sexualized everything.
Society keeps telling us that feminine equals sexual, that if a five year old is to be feminine she is to be sexual, that if she is beautiful, she is desired. It's effed up.
The whole feminist movement seems to have set us back in a few areas. Yes we've come really far in terms of equality with men, but somehow in the process we've decided that in order to be powerful we either have to use our sexuality or totally get rid of it. And somehow in the process we've decided that to be beautiful we need to be "perfect" IE photoshopped or starving or injected or abused somehow... Rather unfortunate and I'm certain not God's design.
So maybe they had some things right in the 50's. Judging solely on this album cover: Beautiful was beautiful. Real was perfect. And sexuality was more fun and less of a power struggle.
What's not to like about that? :)
My husband and I have always had the type of relationship where we can joke about us finding other people attractive. There's a line between finding someone attractive and wanting to "hit that thing". Because let's face it God made some men damn beautiful just as much as He made some women damn beautiful.
And it's nice to know that once upon a time album art that featured naked/nearly naked women didn't include women who couldn't see their tiny because of their abundant breasts.
IMO women compete with other women. No woman wants to be the fat,
unattractive or ugly duckling in the room.Ever scanning the room to
see who has a sexier, prettier hair, flawless skin and last the best bodywho and comparing ourselves. Often wondering if our men are doing the very
same thing we are doing to these other women. Yes, I believe men
are doing just that, looking for Barbie in a crowd of ordinary women. Sizing us up against our competition, JUST AS WE ARE sizing up one another.
Should this feel intimidating? I don't think we would be human if we
didnt feel intimidated. I believe we don't feel it at all, it is because Barbie is missing or we feel that we ARE Barbie in the room. Let's be honest Barbie wants to look hot because she wants male attention, but what she wants MOST is to know that she has beaten out every other girl the room. She
wants every girl to know "I am the hottest girl in here." If we believe that, then we believe our man believes the same thing OR we then don't give a fuck what he thinks because we think we can do better than him base (at that moment) solely on the other women in the room. It doesn't even have anything to do with HIM. With that said, I believe most men are at least fantasizing about other women most of the time. Other women are our competition and we shouldn't
lose sight of them and we shouldn't underestimate the power of
sexuizlation over men. Most men have a lack of self control. They let what starts out as admiration, become flirty, become fantasy and then finally it is sexualized. It is not the fault of Barbie if she can steal
our man. It is not the fault of Barbie for wanting every man
AND WOMAN to notice her. It is the fault of men everywhere for
allowing the admiration of another woman's beauty to BECOME
sexualization.
I don't know if I really have anything here to add. I am still too intensely in the fight of overcoming a longtime pornography addiction to speak clearly on such an issue with any sense of authority. At this point, I know I wouldn't want my wife to show me anything that could set me off. However, the long range goal is not to be unable to see the beauty that God creates, but to see the beauty in and of every person God creates.
Thank you for always sharing openly on here, it gives me hope that one day God will work in me to the point that I can move past the "who I was" and say confidently "I am not that guy anymore"
YES yes yes. i wonder this all the time. i think for me, i feel threatened by this lie: "you have to be perfect physically, emotionally, etc. in order to keep your man from looking anywhere else." and so as we age, gain weight, look less "hot" with time, we get scared into thinking that our boyfriends/fiances/husbands will look to someone who looks better than us when, in reality, those photoshopped women do not exist, like you said. no man's affection should be based on you being "enough" of anything; that is indicative of a love with condition. i would venture to say that you are growing in your understanding of unconditional love -- that you & Max are learning day by day what it means to choose one another now and forever. and so the revelation of these truths is covering up old lies that would lead you to fear the Unidentified Other Woman.
i don't remember what post you said this in, but i think you said it best when you said that a marriage works best when the wife/husband does not lean on their spouse to be their Savior. you are learning to lean more&more on Jesus to validate your worth, and Max is learning more&more to lean on Jesus to validate his. when our cup overflows with a Love devoid of rejection (and rejection is something both men AND women fear) we are able to love/trust each other out of the overflow of that love. knowing your heart, i have been able to see this growth in understanding. and i think that's why you were able to show him the website that day; you see (more intimately now than ever) both of your growth in this area. and THAT is truly a representation of unconditional love -- watching each other grow and loving them in the before, during, and after. oh, that God would grant us more grace and understanding as we dance around with selfish hearts!
you're so beautifully honest and i'm so blessed to be your friend. <3
oh and my favorite part? the "PS." :)
"Feminine beauty barely exists anymore without the thick presence of sexual competition.
And in competition, one person wins, and everyone else loses."
Dude. YES.
I'm really glad you brought this to light, especially since I think it's a topic of curiosity for many women. I was in no way threatened when I saw the picture you posted, yet feel a constant threat/jealousy/insecurity when I see modern depictions of women (which are EVERYWHERE). Really glad you opened that up and explained your view point because I agree: When women are allowed to be women -- feminine and beautiful in their own natural and unique way without the pressure of unattainable perfection -- we aren't threatened. In fact, I dare say the universal community of women see those imperfections and think they are beautiful all the same, in every woman, because we can relate to them -- they are REAL. But when we're faced with a hypersexualized image of a woman who, like you said, likely struggles to keep up with her own fictionalized image, we screw ourselves over into thinking we've already failed and are saturated with insecurity and emptiness.
I think it's not only important for women to remind themselves (and each other) that what we are bombarded with is, in fact, not real, but it's also important to open up this dialogue with men as well. Maybe we should be taking a second look at the "what *truly* makes a woman beautiful?" question. I'm not married nor am I in a committed relationship so I cannot speak from that point of view, but as a single woman, I find comfort in discussions where men acknowledge and point out beauty and attractiveness in their female counterparts that does NOT immediately reflect a hypersexualized image. It gives me a sense of relief that maybe, just maybe, some men see past the unattainable fantasy that most women desperately try to actualize.
Thanks for posting this and opening up the discussion. :)
I could see how a woman would feel less threatened comparing herself to a woman from the 50's than from today, but I don't get the showing your husband and it not bothering you thing.
Now, I am not married.
But when I am I know I will want my body to be the only one my husband sees. Not out of insecurity or not wanting him to compare me to anyone else, but because I was created for his enjoyment, and he was created for mine. Other women's bodies are not for him to enjoy, period. Even if they're "real" women. Now, I'm not stupid, and most likely my husband will not be blind, and he will notice other women. But do I want to present them to him, to throw temptation in his face? No.
That said, I do think your ideas are interesting and do bring about good discussion. Just my two cents.
I think the biggest issue with "nudity" today is what role sin plays in it. It wasn't until Adam and Eve sinned that they hid their naked bodies... A nude body in itself isn't what's sinful. It's the lust that it draws out of you that lets sin enter the picture. So if you know a certain picture won't cause immoral thoughts in your hubby, you'd feel no guilt in showing it to him. But there's a fine line there... because that image will forever be in his mind. And Satan will probably try to use it against him whenever he can. It saddens me to think that way, because I feel the human body is a beautiful thing. But such is the price we pay for being born into sin.
As far as women being sexually threatened by nudity, I think the biggest issue there is our insecurities. Everyone has them, and again, I think Satan uses them against us. The reason I might get upset if I catch my husband watching a naked girl on TV isn’t that I think he wants to sleep with her… It’s that I wonder if he wishes my body was more like hers. Or if she reminds him of some other girl he once knew. He’d think that was silly if I confronted him about it, but that insecurity is still there biting at me. Do I think it’s society’s fault that I think that way? Sure I do. But I also think that through God we can overcome those insecurities.
This was really interesting, it's fascinating how these things change...
Thanks for sharing this - you are, as always, thought-provoking :) xx
P.S. You might have seen this before, but really shows how things have changed, and your blog reminded me of it!
http://www.retronaut.co/2011/11/vintage-weight-gain-ads/
Hi Lauren!
Great topic to discuss!
I, as a fellow blogger, don't do feedback so I love that you do.
I think the insecurities of your past are behind you, and being realized as a woman by your man, you no longer feel the pressure to look a certain way- you know you are perfectly beautiful to your man. I love your blog you're a huge inspiration and I hope to publish your stuff one day, huge dream!
Lots of love! xoxo
This article made me so sad and upset at the same time. God makes it very clear that our bodies are to be shared exclusively with our spouse within marriage. Nudity, whether its 'vintage' or realistic is still nudity and it's not something that should be enjoyed outside of marriage. No man can look at a nude women and keep his thoughts pure and simply say, 'what a beautiful piece of Gods creation.' As a women I get so frustrated seeing women stand up for and encourage women to be objectified under the disguise of celebrating the women's body or by trying to prove they are confidant enough to handle the competition of what the media says is beautiful.
My very first thought when I saw that pic - "Which one of those four women would I be?" I sat there, pondering. I don't generally see nudey shots and immediately associate myself with them. I think there's two key elements that separate this image from nude images of women today. The women look totally natural/comfortable, and the man is making eye contact with the second lady (or at least, focusing on her head/face). Interesting find. I'm a graphic designer, too, so I tip my hat to you for analyzing the emotions this image evoked. Images are powerful things : ) Great post.
I had my answer as soon as I scrolled past the picture: those are legitimate REAL women: essentially untouched by the brush of Photoshop. They have real curves, real blemishes, and it's beautiful. The other awesome thing? There's no sign of a breast, just the idea of one. I think those are intimidating to us - at least, they are to me anyway, and I have pretty honkin' mamas. Satan has so skillfully used the allure of airbrushed women with clear skin and perfectly sized tiny waists to help us hate ourselves: and to hate the beauty the Lord has so lovingly put inside each and every one of us. And the thing we want that we simply can't attain? It wouldn't make our men content anyway, not their flesh at least, because the problem with our flesh is that the only word it knows and ever speaks is, "More."
Love you sister! So thankful you opened this up for discussion! It helped me search my own heart and mind.
my comment made no sense, so i went back and deleted it.
earlynovemberlove said it better.
anyway.
i think that this situation portrays the trust you have in max and your marriage. you trust his desire for you, his commitment to be YOUR man, and your belief in the holy spirit's work in his heart. so grateful that you're willing to share real experiences like this and are willing to dialogue about them!
after studying a bit of art history, i can tell you there is a vast difference between "classical" portrayals of women, much like this album cover, and 95% of the things we pin on pinterest (even the fully clothed ones!)
our fear of sexuality too often lead us to gnosticism.
First of all, I don't have a blog......I don't understand women getting upset when their husbands/boyfriends look at women ---naked or not. I sometimes look at women. They are beautiful. Never bothered me at all.......
Thank you!!! I'm so tired of people making it sound like we as women should all be a perfect size 0 and if you're not then no guy will ever desire you. As you said and your husband said, guys will turn their heads just because we are females. Also I am so stinking tired of people making it sound like there are no guys that don't want to have sex with anything that moves and you can't find one man that won't be unfaithful. That's a lie. If that were the truth that would mean there are no godly men out there. Thank you for being real. Love you Lauren! Stay blessed and keep doing what you're doing!
Even though this image is classified as sexual, I don't find it to be so. It does not come across as provocative to me. They are sitting at a bar sipping on some drinks. I would label the image as sexual only if one of the women had her head turned, starring at the photographer. These women aren't inviting us in. I think that's what makes it playful and not lustful; comical, not sexual, even more so than their body type or figure.
I always love your posts Nicole. It's awesome too know that God is capable of bringing two amazing people together such as Max and yourself. It gives me hope for my wife someday.
As far as your topic goes, I think a major issue is presentation. A lot of the girls at my college wear slinky clothes which only hide the naughty bits, which creates an enticement about complete nudity. Whereas the above picture is very casual, very real.
And I believe that beauty lies very much within reality, while lust and envy come from an unrealistic or ideal viewpoint.
So while we(as men) can appreciate beauty in it's natural or innocent state, lust and heated desire unfortunately tends to come from artificial or exaggerated stimulation.
There's my two cents anyways.
Sorry, but I have to say I'm distracted by the album title. "Music for Hangovers?" Really?
Anyway... to the real point of your post. I heard a sermon recently about how this culture upholds sex as the ultimate thing. We can even see it in the way "sexy" has become the most sought after adjective. Our bodies are wonderful for many reasons. Sex is one. But it is not the only. Our bodies are beautiful and mysterious creations that we should be able to admire.
On the other hand…
I keep thinking of this verse from 1 Cor 10:23 "'I have the right to do anything,' you say—but not everything is beneficial. 'I have the right to do anything'—but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others."
Because we are in a culture that is so sexualized, we do have to be careful. I think our minds go towards lust and envy. We need to be on guard for things we know make us stumble, and towards things we know make others stumble. We don’t have to avoid them- they are in the gray area. But perhaps we should avoid them.
I think I might just be so broken, so still buying what society has sold me, that when I see these pictures I'm not threatened I'm not worried because in my head I think, "he wouldn't want that." I'm not threatened because I don't see them as a threat. The issue there is that, actually am one of those girls. I am 5 ft 8in and I weigh 165. I wear a size 15 and I quite literally am commenting from the elliptical. I don't find those girls a threat because no one woul want them and I fight feeling that way about myself every day.
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Lauren, you hit the nail on the head here. And it took guts, girl! I loved those album covers - they were beautiful, care-free, spunky. And they were completely different from the celebrity pictures that cover magazines today. So sick of today's society. Can we ever get back to that pure perspective of feminine beauty? It has to start with the individual, and it's already begun. It began with you and Max, and now with the rest of us. Beautiful point.
I think the most interesting aspect of shedding the weight of competition with other women (and especially non-existent women) is that it inspires me to really embrace (and rejoice in) being beautiful.
When the two ends of the spectrum are (1) being a complete mess (and simply neglecting to take care of oneself at all) or (2) being a model, as soon as you sense your failure to obtain model-ness it's easy to just let go and slide all the way to the other side of the spectrum. To just give up, as it were.
But when the pressure of comparison is taken away, when we view ourselves the way God sees us, our husbands/men in our lives see us, and in the light of pure reality - we are free to enjoy the beauty God has given us. For me, knowing that it I don't have to attain model-ness frees me to actually enjoy and pursue the beauty I have and that I know my husband sees in me. Instead of giving up, feeling like a failure, and thinking 'what's the point?', I am inspired to take care of myself and make some effort to enhance (sometimes more, sometimes less) the beauty I have. Makeup, fancy clothes or not I am free to dress/look such a way that displays my confidence in the body and face God has given me. That is a cool kind of freedom.
What a crushing burden to bear when simply being girly and feminine requires looking better than everyone and being over-sexualized. Getting rid of that burden frees us to be women.
From a girl who developed an eating disorder at 15 and only ever thought I was beautiful at 20lbs under weight and if I received "skinny" compliments. It's a struggle still, even though I know in my heart God can take it all away- I look at women like that and WISH I could think that was beautiful for myself. Someday. It's a process, and I'm 79% better than I used to be. Thanks for the post- reminder- and awesome discussion on why society sucks. =)
Great post,I really like your article
These women (at least the ones in the photo you've shared) are nude but it's not at all sexual, it's like they just happen to be sitting around without any clothes on... Even though men might find the female body attractive no matter what the context, I would say there's a big difference between just being naked, and being suggestive about it. I really don't think there's much inherently sexual about nudity...although I'm sure a lot of my guy friends would probably beg to differ. C.S. Lewis wrote something great about modesty in "Mere Christianity" that it really depends on context.
the disclaimer. pure amazing.
that's all.
Funny how I don't feel threatened by those images, either. Yet I think those women are beautiful. Something has to be wrong with that, right?
I'm a new reader by the way! Love your thoughts & your courage to share them. XO
This is a great article. I think that guys can clearly notice the difference between simply admiring a beautiful woman and lustfully gazing at a woman sexually. I've been told by even married women that they have no problem pointing out a beautiful woman to their husband because . . .well she's beautiful and worthy of admiration. They don't feel threatened because they know that there is a difference in true beauty and sexual exploitation. I can say as a guy that in the long run a truly beautiful woman is much more satifying than the quick pleasure that a sexually appealing slut brings.
thanks for being honest. I'm a guy, and so far I have enjoyed your blog. I think this ad juxtaposed with your most recent post is ironic.
keep up the good work and may you be blessed. And as a man, I'm sorry for the way so many of us (including myself) treat females.
Hmmmm...such a great perspective that I never really considered like that. I like what you said:
"Maybe the fact that our men look at other women isn't what's really destroying us the most. Maybe it's that our men are learning to compare us to a woman that doesn't exist."
wow. what a brave thought to share with virtually anyone! the image i keep returning to as i think about your post is one of man and woman, walk with God in the garden, naked and yet unashamed. i imagine you and your husband have a taste of the "unashamed" life in your marriage-perhaps it has allowed you the freedom to see the world (yes, even naked women) as God intended it to be?
I would like to propose an experiment.
1: As a woman, look at the album cover and state in writing your feelings about the women you see in the photograph.
2. Then cover up the writings, script, comments and photograph of the bartender of the album and state in writing your reaction only to the women posed nude as such.
Have your feelings changed?
My suspicion is that the comments talking about the lack of threat women feel to this picture stems from the visual clues of the photograph which indicate that none of these women could be of an age to interfere with your security. Remove these clues and I suspect you as a woman will feel threatened and react entirely differently.
Just a guess.
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Hello, I am Jessica Funk. After being in relationship with my husband for years, he broke up with me. I did everything within my reach to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so badly because of the love I had for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back , I had no choice than to try it. I messaged the spell caster, and he assured me there was no problem and that everything will be okay before three days. He cast the spell and surprisingly on the second day, my husband called me. I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that had happened He wanted me to return to him. He also said he loved me so much. I was so happy and went to him that was how we started living together happily again. The spell casters email is okokakspellhome@gmail.com. You can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or any other Case. Or WhatApp him on +2349060421250
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